tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7349070.post7139070026929713077..comments2023-08-29T05:36:46.228-06:00Comments on cyber spirit cafe: Holy crapDoug Kingshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12830571125611956474noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7349070.post-88181263728555838792010-02-21T16:34:34.597-07:002010-02-21T16:34:34.597-07:00Yes, Kelly, I can imagine that's scoring you l...Yes, Kelly, I can imagine that's scoring you lots of points on Higgins Rd and elsewhere--keep up the good work!Doug Kingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12830571125611956474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7349070.post-21400776849281358602010-02-21T11:35:40.749-07:002010-02-21T11:35:40.749-07:00You're exactly right, Doug, to make the connec...You're exactly right, Doug, to make the connection between identity and structure. That's why every church growth program, like the one in your area, will end up feeling (and appearing to our neighbors) like nothing more than a desperate attempt to prop up the institution, fund the pension plan, and protect the roster. I'm so over it. <br /><br />It's time for a whole new way of doing church - and life! – together. These days the only thing I'm interested in is helping people be who they are and see what they have for the sake of doing what matters to God. I not only won't promise to grow your church; I'll tell you I don't think that's the point. This has made the heads of some denominational leaders spin. <br /><br />:)Kelly Fryerhttp://www.arenewalenterprise.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7349070.post-83926242214894833392010-02-20T12:36:21.716-07:002010-02-20T12:36:21.716-07:00Unfortunately I think the prevailing spirit is mor...Unfortunately I think the prevailing spirit is more one of confusion bordering on panic. If you have been doing things one way your whole life, it's hard to even imagine any alternative.Doug Kingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12830571125611956474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7349070.post-83822062456642566552010-02-19T20:44:39.928-07:002010-02-19T20:44:39.928-07:00At some point I'll start sounding like Janey o...At some point I'll start sounding like Janey one note but among the other things required of the church in this period of transiiton is a sincere spirit of humility and repentance. And to back up words with real behavioral changes. <br /><br />Thanks for pointing us (me) to this good analysis, Doug. You're definitely onto something and I'm glad you keep bringing it up! <br />JanJan Ericksonhttp://www.janerickson.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com